Transcript
[0:01] On 22 January 2022, Zen master
Thich Nhat Hanh
passed away at Tu Hieu Temple
in Vietnam at the age of 95
[0:13] This film tells the story of Thay’s return to
Vietnam in 2018
[0:18] The years until his passing,
and the funeral ceremonies which
were watched by millions around the world.
[1:05] The Root Temple is a very important Temple,
[1:08] and the abbot and the teacher of that
temple has many students
[1:15] and spiritual family members.
[1:17] So Thay, when he was 16 years old,
he became a novice here in Tu Hieu temple.
[1:23] And the last three years of his life,
he decided to come back here.
[1:53] I have arrived, I am home
[1:59] It is not Thay’s will
that he has to be in the West.
[2:05] Because of the war in Vietnam,
that's why he was forced into exile.
[2:12] But his heart is in Vietnam,
[2:15] that's what we know.
[2:16] Throughout so many years of Thay’s life,
[2:20] he continued to give
the teaching in the West.
[2:22] But he continued to have a very close
interaction with the Vietnamese people.
[2:28] So after Thay had a stroke in 2014,
[2:34] after the treatment in America,
and then he came back to France,
[2:38] and then he already planned
to go back to Vietnam.
[3:05] There are many factors that were in
play when Thay was going to Vietnam.
[3:11] Of course Thay in the
tradition is still the abbot,
[3:14] or was still the abbot of Tu Hieu Temple.
[3:18] And so it's very appropriate
for Thay to return.
[3:24] So it was very exciting
that Thay could come back.
[3:27] So that all of his students from all
around the world can return to the root.
[3:32] And it's very beautiful that
the Vietnamese government
[3:35] is willing to open up
and to make that happen.
[3:41] When Thay made signs we asked
questions, all kind of questions,
[3:45] and Thay nodded his head,
[3:47] or shook his head.
[3:49] To say yes or no.
[3:51] And after all the questions we understood
[3:53] that Thay wanted to go back to Vietnam.
[3:59] During those days,
[4:00] it was very interesting that
Thay kept drawing a circle
[4:03] with his left hand he drew a circle,
and then at the end of the circle,
[4:08] he pointed toward his lower abdomen.
[4:11] With the sign in his left hand like this.
[4:15] So what we interpreted,
[4:17] and then we asked Thay whether
the interpretation is correct
[4:21] Thay had been going around the world,
[4:24] teaching and spreading the Dharma.
[4:27] And now it's time for
Thay to return to the root.
[4:31] And he would like to connect with his roots.
[4:33] And that root are his ancestors,
[4:36] so that's why he raised
his hand up to his head.
[4:40] Venerable Thich Nhat Hanh has returned
to the place where he began.
[4:47] I think it was a very joyful atmosphere.
[4:50] Everyone was very excited,
[4:52] and I too was very excited
that Thay could go back to Vietnam.
[4:57] As I remember when Thay arrived
in Tu Hieu there was a big crowd,
[5:02] even though it was only a few
days since the announcement
[5:05] there was a big crowd
that came to welcome Thay,
[5:09] By being there in Vietnam,
Thay became an object of pilgrimage
[5:17] I think Thay was very aware of that.
[5:20] It's not easy for many people
to travel outside of Vietnam.
[5:23] So to have Thay there,
it created a focal point.
[5:27] Although we had difficulty to build
a full Plum Village center in Vietnam.
[5:32] By Thay being there, Thay was
effectively a practice center.
[5:35] Thay established a practice
center in his presence.
[5:40] Tu Hieu Temple was built
by mandarins, by eunuchs in 1848.
[5:50] And this three door gate - all temples
in Hue you will see the three door gate.
[5:58] And the middle gate is always closed,
[6:02] because they open it only
for the king and the Abbot.
[6:06] The health of the venerable is stable,
the same with his spirit.
[6:14] It always moves people, knowing the fact that
he returned to the place where he ordained.
[6:26] Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh is a spiritual
leader who has great influence in the West.
[6:29] And of course the brothers and sisters
were very happy to see Thay.
[6:35] And we had monks, nuns
who had been Thay’s students
[6:40] for a long time coming to greet Thay.
[6:43] It was a great homecoming for Thay.
[6:46] And I see those who had
known Thay for a long time,
[6:50] were very happy to
see Thay back in Vietnam.
[6:55] We didn't dare to tell a lot to the crowd,
but even so there was a big crowd.
[7:01] And I remember when he first arrived,
[7:04] he even wanted to walk.
[7:06] He was in a wheelchair,
[7:08] but he wanted somebody to hold him.
[7:12] And he walked a few steps before
he climbed back on the wheelchair.
[7:18] So he showed that he's
really determined to go back
[7:21] and he was happy to touch
the land of Vietnam.
[7:26] After his hemorrhage in 2014
Thay could not speak anymore.
[7:35] At that time, the doctor told us
that Thay had a few hours to live...
[7:42] and miraculously Thay went
through that most critical moment,
[7:48] and Thay got out of his coma.
[7:53] And slowly he restored his senses.
[8:01] There were moments when Thay
was very close to death,
[8:07] but Thay overcame.
[8:11] And the young sisters
in the nunnery of Dieu Tram,
[8:16] they were very lucky,
because they could see Thay.
[8:22] They had the chance to eat with
Thay, to take care of Thay’s place,
[8:28] and slowly there’s a feeling of love
between teacher and student.
[8:36] They learned a lot from Thay
on how to be present for each person.
[8:43] Whenever they went to Thay they could
feel that Thay talked a lot to them...
[8:50] with his eyes, with his full presence,
with his movements, he made signs.
[8:59] ♪ In the here and now
we are singing together
[9:05] ♪ to light up the fact
we have each other.
[9:16] I have arrived, I am home.
[9:18] It's a fundamental practice in Plum Village.
[9:25] We dwell in the present moment
in the here and the now.
[9:30] Body and mind, we enjoy
where we are, what we are doing.
[9:36] We don't think of anywhere else.
[9:39] We don't think of the past, of the future.
[9:43] We are totally present
[9:45] body and mind, here for us
and for the person in front of us.
[9:53] We don't need to run anymore.
[9:57] We don't need to go anywhere.
[10:01] We are home,
[10:02] we feel that we have arrived.
[10:04] Thay would go out on the walk
[10:07] and people around
just became more mindful.
[10:10] It created an atmosphere
in the temple, of mindfulness
[10:15] that brought beauty,
[10:18] brought calm, brought peace,
[10:20] brought a sense of love.
[10:24] So I think this is Thay’s
great teaching of his last years.
[10:29] It's beyond words.
[10:33] What I learned from Thay is humility.
[10:38] I had so many surprises from Thay
[10:41] because when we are attendants
sometimes we think that we know Thay,
[10:46] we understand Thay and we can guess things.
[10:49] But many times Thay, like a Zen master,
[10:53] with a sword, he cut
our assumption or speculation.
[11:01] Sometimes Thay is completely different,
[11:04] and many times I would
‘Wow’, no it's not true...
[11:10] Thay wants something else,
it's not like that.
[11:14] So I learned humility with my perception.
[11:18] The last three years he
didn't tell his stories anymore
[11:21] but how he visited each place
with so much attention and love.
[11:30] Those were always special moments
for us to follow Thay to each corner
[11:36] and feel the energy,
[11:39] and remember the stories.
[11:46] The last three years, spend in Tu Hieu
temple were his peaceful and happy years.
[11:55] I remember when Thay came back here,
[11:59] the first time when Thay came into his
room, above his bed there was decoration.
[12:04] It was a calligraphy from him,
[12:06] with the words in Vietnamese,
"Trở về" coming back.
[12:10] And Thay pointed to that calligraphy,
[12:13] and Thay smiled and nodded his head.
[12:16] And I asked him: Thay,
is Thay happy to come back?
[12:20] Thay nodded and Thay looked
very peaceful, fulfilled, happy.
[12:30] It was the strongest teaching
that Thay gave to his students.
[12:37] Always coming back to our roots,
[12:41] our spiritual roots,
[12:44] our blood roots,
[12:46] our genetic roots.
[12:49] For us growing up in the West,
[12:52] being ordained in Plum Village, in France.
[12:57] Plum Village is our root.
[13:00] And when Thay came back here.
[13:05] Now we see that...
[13:09] we feel clearly in our blood,
in our body that our root is here.
[13:14] And we are so happy.
[13:16] We see that our root is
very deep, very ancient.
[13:21] There are so many generations of teachers.
[13:33] I would say that the last three years of
Thay’s life was a happy period for Thay.
[13:39] First Thay was able to
come back to his root temple.
[13:44] And also to visit Thay’s teachers room,
he loved his teacher a lot.
[13:49] He came to see the places
from when he was a young novice,
[13:54] the well,
[13:56] the place where he used to
raise the cows, the buffaloes,
[14:01] the place where he read the sutras.
[14:07] But these are only memories.
[14:11] I think the presence of Thay in Vietnam
the last three years brought a message.
[14:18] He got in touch with the present moment.
[14:23] And Thay even though on his wheelchair
was still a Zen master and a teacher.
[14:30] He still had a responsibility to teach.
[14:35] Life is only available in the present moment.
[14:38] And Thay took that message dearly.
[14:45] He was still alive.
[14:47] He still had his students.
[14:50] He was with his teachers in his root temple.
[14:54] He lived his life fully,
[14:59] even though physically,
he was not in the best conditions.
[15:03] What we share is the spiritual root.
[15:07] And this is the message
that Thay was able to bring out.
[15:11] And Thay invited everyone
to return to that spiritual root.
[15:15] By our practice, by walking meditation,
[15:18] by sitting still peacefully.
[15:22] To return to our self,
to be in touch deeply with ourself,
[15:26] and to see who we truly are
beyond the historical dimension.
[15:33] To touch this common root,
this shared heritage.
[15:38] Not only of the
Vietnamese spiritual tradition,
[15:42] but all of the spiritual
traditions around the world.
[15:49] Let Thay touch your head.
[15:57] Thay had gone through
a very difficult moment in his life.
[16:02] But Thay continued to maintain his practice.
[16:05] He continued to have a positive attitude
about life, and he does not give up.
[16:10] He thinks that his life is still meaningful.
[16:14] He still can do something for life, even
in this most difficult stage of his health.
[16:44] Thay went through so many
difficult and crucial, critical moments
[16:51] and Thay overcame.
[16:53] So that time I thought
that Thay would also overcome.
[16:57] But when I saw that no,
[17:00] with everything we did,
[17:02] Thay didn't get better.
So there were...
[17:05] there was a short moment I panicked,
[17:08] I understood that no,
this time we cannot do anything.
[17:13] And for seven years
I had prepared for this moment.
[17:18] But at that time
I was desperate and panicked.
[17:26] We knew it for a few weeks already
[17:30] that he may have difficulty to survive,
[17:34] but one day his heart beat is too low.
[17:51] To pass on with the monks and nuns
around Thay singing Thay’s poetry.
[17:58] Let the Buddha breathe,
I don't need to breathe.
[18:02] That beautiful poem that Thay wrote as
a meditation practice was so appropriate.
[18:18] When I first received the news
of Thay’s passing I was at home
[18:22] at my parents house in San Diego.
[18:27] I took a breath because I was
preparing for a normal workday.
[18:32] And then I realized at that moment that...
[18:38] this is it.
[18:41] I went to my mother's altar,
[18:45] I lit an incense,
[18:48] and I took a breath,
[18:51] and offered the incense...
[18:56] to the Buddha,
[18:58] and to Thay.
[19:09] For those who are close to Thay,
[19:12] from time to time we miss Thay,
[19:15] and we would love to have a hug with Thay.
[19:27] It was a moment
that we expected to happen,
[19:32] but of course when it happens,
[19:33] you feel the pain.
[19:57] Thay is still existing in other
what we call non-Thay elements,
[20:03] and that's how we can go on,
and that’s what the Buddha has taught us
[20:07] and that's how Thay had
repeated that message to us.
[20:11] So it's okay to cry for some time
[20:15] but there's other things available
all the wonders of life are available.
[20:20] "Continue please, my dear students,"
that is Thay’s message.
[20:29] I had then to go back...
[20:31] to Deer Park Monastery where I'm from,
[20:35] and be present for the community there,
[20:39] the brothers and sisters there.
[20:44] And during the first ceremony
[20:47] we followed live online.
[20:53] We had neighboring monks
from different monasteries
[20:57] just across the freeway,
[20:59] they came over to sit together with us.
[21:30] And I remember it was so powerful,
[21:33] so present.
[21:35] You can feel a lot of the grief,
[21:38] a lot of pain and confusion
[21:40] but at the same time,
[21:43] so much presence,
[21:44] and so much of coming
together as a community.
[22:02] I did a live translation of the ceremonies
[22:07] for the online audience,
[22:09] and it was so moving
just to see the live chat
[22:15] as we were in the room
while we were translating.
[22:18] So many words of support
and so much words of gratitude
[22:23] honoring Thay’s work and his life.
[22:27] I felt such a global support.
[22:29] And seeing the participation
online on a global level.
[22:35] Was so powerful for me.
[22:37] Just by seeing the numbers of livestream
[22:41] there was about a couple hundred thousands.
[22:45] And the news reached tens of millions.
[22:56] I think it would be wrong to
characterize the ceremonies as being sad,
[23:01] or overly solemn.
[23:03] There was a very clear
energy every day of joy.
[23:07] There was solemnity that we need to do
this for the sangha in the ten directions,
[23:14] we need to create a legendary
moment for Thay’s passing.
[23:18] So that as a community
we can look back on it.
[23:22] And feel the sense of connection and
continuation that's been properly held.
[23:31] But it was so joyful,
[23:33] because it's always joyful
when we come together,
[23:36] and that's the way Thay
always wants us to be.
[23:42] The beautiful thing about these
ceremonies is that they're actually,
[23:46] they're conceived in a way
to have thousands of people there.
[23:52] And there's very much this
energy of peacefulness.
[23:56] But also everybody wants to be
closer to the center of the ceremony.
[24:12] It was such a beautiful walk
to go down the main entrance way
[24:17] to the half moon pool and
then out to the main gate.
[24:23] We went very slowly, mindfully,
and with so much love,
[24:30] I just felt so much the
sense of care for Thay,
[24:35] and that we are carrying on
Thay’s path, Thay’s actions.
[24:46] And we came out into the main road
[24:50] and there was a procession,
[24:52] a kind of funeral float you could say,
[24:55] that had been prepared,
[24:57] that would hold the casket.
[25:00] And a number of cars to take all of us
who are part of the ceremonies.
[25:05] So we got into the car and drove.
[25:09] When I look back at the videos,
[25:12] when the car carrying Thay’s coffin
[25:17] along the roads.
[25:19] I saw people kneel down
and pay respect to Thay.
[25:24] It's a Buddhist tradition.
[25:28] I felt really touched by that.
[25:32] What they pay respect to...
[25:37] is not a God-like figure,
[25:41] but it is a person who had
brought love and understanding.
[25:50] So that's what I see.
[25:56] That's how I see that...
[25:59] Thay continues to teach.
[26:05] Even at his funeral.
[26:23] The torches came,
[26:26] and then they pushed Thay's
casket into the crematorium
[26:36] and then all of the high
venerables and some of our elders
[26:41] then used the torches to light the
wood that had been placed beneath it.
[26:45] That's quite a moment,
[26:48] because...
[26:50] in my life,
[26:51] and I'm almost 20 years as a monk.
[26:55] And to see Thay’s body burning in...
[26:59] I mean of course we cannot see it directly,
[27:03] but it's a real moment,
[27:06] to see our teacher really
going back to the earth.
[27:13] We stayed up most of the night.
[27:16] But early that morning,
all the monks and nuns
[27:21] were sitting around the
crematorium just like we would
[27:26] when Thay was giving
a Dharma talk in Upper Hamlet.
[27:31] It was...
[27:34] when I looked around at my brothers
and sisters we were all sitting in silence.
[27:38] And...
[27:41] I suddenly realized this
is Thay’s last Dharma Talk.
[27:54] And we are all there sitting,
joyfully following our breathing,
[27:59] receiving these teachings.
[28:03] It was such a powerful moment.
[28:16] So when we were sitting
around the crematorium like that,
[28:21] I remembered that moment
of Thay teaching without words.
[28:29] And to be honest, until today,
[28:31] I continue to receive
that teaching everywhere.
[28:34] Whether it's in the trees here in Deer Park.
[28:37] Whether it's in my brothers
and sisters when they give a talk.
[28:43] Whether it's in the sky,
[28:48] the ocean,
[28:53] Thay’s presence is everywhere.
[28:57] If I look with those eyes.
[29:02] That for me was a great gift that we
received from Thay on that last night.
[29:17] The whole event,
[29:20] was designed as Thay’s last retreat.
[29:25] It is a retreat with the topic of...
[29:29] "Taking refuge in oneself".
[29:32] And it is a noble silent retreat,
[29:35] and Thay is giving a Dharma talk.
[29:38] It is a noble silent Dharma talk.
[29:44] And truly for me...
[29:48] at the end of the day.
Where are we going to be?
[29:53] Unless we can be in touch deeply
with our ultimate dimension,
[29:59] to be in touch deeply with our root,
[30:02] then...
[30:03] when we are able to touch
deeply the ultimate dimension,
[30:07] with our root.
[30:08] There would be no fear,
there would be no anxiety.
[30:12] It would be a very peaceful death.
[30:15] And in fact,
[30:16] many people have shared with me
that they are very afraid of death.
[30:21] But by watching Thay’s funeral,
now they are able to smile to death.
[30:27] They are able to be calm and peaceful.
[30:31] Because Thay had gone
through it very peacefully.
[30:34] And they know that they can
also go through it peacefully,
[30:38] accepting death beautifully.
[30:55] After the funeral ceremonies in Vietnam
Thay’s ashes were distributed and returned
to the earth at Plum Village monasteries
in Asia, Europe, the USA and Australia
[33:36] Thay continues as Plum Village practice
centres flourish around the world
[34:46] I think since Thay’s passing.
What's really interesting.
[34:49] When he's alive, the mind tended
to keep him always separate.
[34:53] There was Thay,
there was the teacher,
[34:55] and then I'm the student,
and then I just practice.
[34:58] One of the things for myself and what
I've really observed with the monastics
[35:02] and with other lay friends,
[35:04] it's like the embodiment of Thay now.
[35:08] It's like Thay,
[35:09] he's free...
[35:11] And so he just kind of
manifests within the practice.
[35:16] Like doing walking meditation prior to 2022.
[35:20] It's like you walk with Thay, right?
[35:22] And now, Thay IS the walking.
[35:27] He's just here.
[35:42] This summer, it's the first summer
since reopening after the pandemic.
[35:46] We offered again, I like this term,
it's like the summer festival,
[35:50] where the families can come
with children and teenagers.
[35:53] I hope Thay would be happy
[35:55] that we offered a small, for the
first time, a deep ecology retreat,
[35:58] called "Coming Home to Mother Earth."
[36:00] And it was about offering the teachings
that have helped me so much in my life.
[36:04] The whole retreat is based
on this reality of interbeing.
[36:07] He shares that the reality of
interbeing being is unsurpassed.
[36:11] That none of us can
exist on our own in the world.
[36:13] The entrepreneurial spirit is great,
but you can't make it on your own.
[36:17] And this web of reciprocity
with the natural world,
[36:20] the people came for this healing
in these times of emergency,
[36:23] of our climate emergency,
or biodiversity ecology emergency.
[36:27] But what Thay talked about,
our social emergency as a human family,
[36:31] that loneliness and anxiety
are the ill beings of our time.
[36:45] I never met Thay face to face.
[36:48] Yet I still felt his presence
in all of the monastics
[36:53] who I developed relationships with.
[36:55] And who, using the teachings
helped me change my life.
[37:00] And because of that lived experience,
[37:05] I have a lot of faith in the practice
continuing amongst the monastics.
[37:11] And also..
[37:13] Thay doesn't just exist in his
teachings and in a human person,
[37:19] he exists through the practices.
[37:34] I think we just listen to his
talks a little differently now.
[37:38] And for me...
[37:40] I take a lot more to heart
some messages he had,
[37:43] especially key teachings in his life
and things that he really stressed.
[37:48] There is a very sweet letter
that he wrote for monastics.
[37:55] And those words are very different
now seeing that he has transitioned.
[38:01] A lot of us share how we see
for years before his transitioning,
[38:05] he was preparing the sangha
for this inevitable moment,
[38:09] and how to be able to hold itself,
[38:13] how to be there,
[38:14] how to let it be an organism that doesn't
need some sort of person at the top,
[38:19] in the traditional Abbot role for example,
for it to function and for it to thrive.
[38:27] And I think now I see a lot of...
[38:29] the quiet genius behind what
he was doing for the community.
[38:32] And his actions make a lot more sense.
[38:35] And we...
[38:37] not only can,
[38:40] For us...
[38:42] it's not only the case that we can imagine
[38:44] our centers without Su Ong (Thay)
[38:47] That is exactly what we've
been doing for the most part.
[38:50] He's been in Thai Plum Village
for a while and Tu Hieu as well.
[38:56] I think a lot of this is,
knowing our teacher, very deliberate.
[39:00] A lot of this was to let the sangha
know how to take care of itself
[39:04] when he's not around.
[39:06] Because that's for him,
I think a very big happiness.
[39:09] To know that he can transition
beautifully the way he did.
[39:13] And we'll still be here and we'll still be happy.
[39:15] We'll still be playing volleyball once in a while.
[39:17] We'll still be cooking together.
[39:19] We'll still be practicing and growing together.
[39:22] And it doesn't just rest on one person.
[39:35] Thay always talks about
interbeing and no birth and no death.
[39:39] And it's so easy for the conceptual mind to say,
[39:42] he was here and now he died.
[39:45] But I've been here almost
the whole rains retreat.
[39:49] I've got about another
month to go and it's just...
[39:53] there is no death, Thay is here,
and you can feel him in the energy.
[39:56] You can see him in people's
practices, just the presence.
[40:03] I think the Plum Village
tradition is here to stay.